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Present: Steve Yorke, Mark Robinson, Winnie Beck, Jane Bowden, Carol Brier, Charles Dewa, Tom Hutchison
Apologies:
Observers: David Kirkham, Mick Tagg, Barry Mitchell, Michael Graham, Simon Hudson, Paul Hibbs, Diane Yorke, Roy Lawson
Meeting opened at 10.30 am and the minutes from the previous meeting held on 20th August 2023 were read out by SY and accepted without change (Proposed WB, seconded by TH).
Matters Arising.
Were covered during the meeting
Treasurer’s Report
• Financial Situation: £7647 in the bank with £3342 available after liabilities plus the value of the stock. The amount will increase as there are still some rents outstanding – 5 not paid and 14 not been offered a lease until improvements are made. The only potential issue with outgoings is the possible cost of replacing the locks and keys. MR advised that our financial situation is fine. The new tables had been purchased.
Secretary’s Report
As acting Secretary, SY reported that he and MR were keeping things ticking over although the negotiation over the new lease may be problematic without a Secretary.
• OPFGHA had accepted the invitation of the local federation to be in the first round of negotiations given that our lease would be one of the earliest to run out.
• BBQ and Show: Had gone well. Costs were £140 (drinks), £187 + £22 (food), £74 (utensils/disposables) giving a total of £424. Receipts were £240 (raffle), £147 (auction), £170 (donations) giving a total of £557 meaning a net profit of £133. Although the aim is not to make a profit, this is very welcome, especially the amount received in donations. There was a vote of thanks to JS for all the hard work that he put into this event.
• Plot inspections and Plans: 14 people had not been offered rent bills in line with the new inspections policy. All have been spoken to and given guidance on improvements required by 1st November when a further inspection will be made. Trees and hedges are the main issue. One member offers a hedge cutting for a fee to be negotiated with the tenant in a private arrangement.
• Vacancies: There are about 10 plots to let and about 18 people on the waiting list. SY will be meeting prospective tenants and proposes a more stringent assessment of their commitment.
• Rent bills: All have been sent out.
• Theft: Sadly, there had been 2 reports of theft from plots with fruit and tools being stolen. SY reiterated that if anyone was caught stealing, they would be evicted from the site immediately. No-one should enter another plot uninvited unless there was a suspected emergency, concern over water being wasted or the plot was being inspected. SY advised against people locking themselves inside their plot whilst working in case of accident or illness.
• Abuse: There have been a number of cases in which abuse has been reported. If verbal abuse is witnessed or if it is written, the perpetrator will be dealt with in line with the policy and may eventually be expelled. Generally, it is better to try to resolve things between each other or where there is known to be animosity, to avoid each other. If issues cannot be resolved, then members are advised to approach a Committee member.
• Burning: Given recent complaints the Committee will monitor the smoke produced on burning days. Tenants should take care to reduce the smoke produced by ensuring their fire burns fiercely rather than smouldering, that items on it are appropriate and are dry. No plastic may be burned. Consider not burning if it is a hot day when neighbours will have windows open. Use the communal bonfire organised by SY and be prepared to assist him with it.
• Plot moves: A number of moves have been agreed subject to certain conditions. CB will take on Bernard’s old plot provided that she replaces the fence in her old plot and leaves it in good shape. Michael is moving to Jim Goldie’s old plot provided that the caravan on it is removed and his fence is sorted out. Plot 66 has been let to Althera and Adam. This gives them a second plot, but it was agreed to do this as an exceptional case as the plot is severely neglected and unattractive to prospective tenants and takes account of the good work that Althera and Adam have done over the years on their current plot.
• Requests for change of plot/additional plot: In future it was agreed that any requests for plot changes should be put in writing and the response of the Secretary should also be in writing to avoid any miscommunication and ensure transparency.
• Email from Lisa Goulbourne (Plot 1) and JS’s Reply: The two emails were read out. There was some disquiet about the tone and content of the email from Lisa. It was noted that whatever had or had not been said to her, it would be highly unusual for a person to be given a second plot after such a short amount of time even though it was recognised that she had made good progress on her current plot. As there were still people on the waiting list, current plot holders should not be given second plots as per the Letting Policy. In relation to her complaint about the road stone not being used, it was noted that anyone can use it to fill in potholes at any time or can join the working parties. Few people had volunteered for the last one, possibly due to it being advertised at short notice. It was proposed that in future working parties should be held on a regular day, e.g. Burning Sunday, so everyone knew when they were. In conclusion, no-one wished to pursue the proposed vote of no confidence. During the discussion it was noted that the Secretary’s job is voluntary, often not seen or appreciated and is particularly demanding. It is really important that people look at issues from the whole Association perspective, not just their own. It was also pointed out that members need to be respectful of each other, particularly those working to keep the Association running.
• Carol’s query: Already dealt with
• Barry Mitchell’s emails: Barry had asked for 3 items to be placed on the agenda:
a. The method of getting items onto the Agenda. SY explained that he had added ‘stevebee’ as an additional means of people sending items to him for consideration at a Committee meeting. They could still contact him directly. If they miss the agenda being published, then things can still be brought up under AOB.
b. Committee Meetings: Barry had contacted the National Society to ask about having an open meeting before the Committee meeting. It was felt that this would be too onerous and that the current situation in which any member was free to attend meetings and could speak at them was sufficient and working well.
c. Response from NSALG: Barry had also written to the National Association to ask about the need to have a General Meeting whenever a member is being asked to leave the Association, e.g. following a series of unsatisfactory inspections. The response from the Legal Advisor at the NSALG was that we are currently following our Registered Rules correctly. Barry disagreed with this advice and was advised to hold a separate meeting with any others who shared his views. It was pointed out by several people present during the long debate over this that that there was a need to be pragmatic in order to keep the Association functioning in a timely manner. In addition, much time and energy can be wasted by focusing too much on specific issues rather than managing the site responsibly and practically.
Any other Business
• Water: Water will be turned off after November 5th
• EGM: An EGM had been proposed in order to elect a new Secretary, but this was postponed pending a decision from John Stooke.
Rolled over items:

Meeting closed at 12.16pm.
Date of next meeting: Sunday 12th November in the polytunnel

Please note that, all members are more than welcome to attend Committee meetings and enter into debates (although they cannot vote). This will enable you to know what the Committee does and to contribute to the running of the Association.

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Burning Day and Community Bonfire

Last month the council received a complaint about the smoke coming from our site on burning day. The whole of Nottingham is a smoke control zone, we are lucky to be allowed to have a monthly burning day. If the council continue to receive complaints it is likely they will ban us from having fires.

You must do what you can to reduce the amount of smoke, a hot fierce fire burning for a short time is much better than a smouldering fire. Green material (grass, leaves etc) should be composted and not burnt. Do not burn plastic waste (not even a little bit) take it home to feed your wheelie bin. If you see someone making smoke, please offer assistance to get the fire burning vigorously and reduce smoke.

Once again Steve has generously coordinated a community bonfire on his car park, but it’s not fair to expect him to do all the work. If any of your stuff is on the fire you should make an effort to help out. While the fire is burning, unburnt material needs raking into the fire, even standing around chatting is helping because you will be there to operate a hose if things get out of hand. After the fire has finished and cooled, there will be a big pile of ash to clear up. Once sieved it’s really good spread on your garden, help yourself in the week after the fire.

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Committee Meeting 1st OCT 2023 – Agenda

10.30 Chairman opens meeting, apologies
Minutes of meeting held 20TH AUGUST 2023
Matters arising
Chairman’s report
Treasurer’s report
Secretary’s report
Barbecue and Show
Plot inspection and plans
Rent bills
Lisa Goulbourne’s email to John
Call for E.G.M. on Sunday 29th October 2023
Other matters requested to be added to Agenda (contact 01158491526 leave on answer phone if not answered)
AOB
Confirm date of next meeting
Close

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Barbecue & Show

Just a reminder that our ‘Annual Barbecue & Show will be held this Saturday 9th September starting at 12 noon.

There will be plenty of food and refreshment on offer, and as always it will be free of charge.

If you have any fruit, veg or flowers that you would like to enter into the show, please bring it to the polytunnel prior to the judging that will start at around 12 noon.

There will be an Auction of fruit, veg and flowers and a raffle, tickets will sold at £1 per strip, or 6 strips for £5. We have some great prizes, but should you have anything that you would like to donate then bring it to the polytunnel on arrival.

We usually have a good nturn out, butv it would be great to see more menbers of the association attending, so if you have an hour or two free come along and enjoy the occasion.

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Present: Steve Yorke, John Stooke, Mark Robinson, Charles Dewa, Winnie Beck, Karol Brier, Tom Hutchison.

Apologies: Wendy Thomas, Jane Bowden.

Observers: Lisa Golbourne, Diane Yorke, Barry Mitchell.

Meeting opened at 10.35 am

Minutes of meeting on 16th July 2023 accepted, proposed by Winnie seconded Tom

Matters arising. Charles reported back after discussions with various professional bodies that there were no problems to humans or animals with using old engine oil as a wood preservative. 

Chairman’s report. The Chairman pointed out that this is a committee meeting concerned with the day to day running of the association and not a lengthy debate on whether certain rules had died or been revived, Barry Mitchell was not happy with this and chose to leave the meeting.

Also reported a tap left on resulting in loss of £35 to £40 worth of water. The person concerned did not think he left the tap on and maybe someone else turned it on to make trouble

Treasurer’s report.  £5,383 in bank £2,146  available for projects.

Mark also wished to tender his resignation as Treasurer at the A.G.M. in March. Anyone interested in this position and would like to shadow Mark to learn how things work please contact the committee

Secretary’s report: – Thanks to last Sundays working party and others who helped later on to get plot 2 into a let able state. Concern was expressed over Wilf Haydon’s health and state of his plot. The Secretary is in contact with his son to find a solution.

The new tables had not yet been purchased due to the concern of any costs that would be incurred should both Padlocks and keys require replacing, MR advised that purchasing the new tables wouldn’t be a problem. JS advised that he would look the possibility of purchasing second hand Abloy padlocks that could the internals changed to match our keys.

Nottingham Federation: – We have been invited to take part in discussions with Nottingham City Council over the New Proposed Lease along with two other sites whose lease runs out just before our lease. It was agreed to take part.

Barbecue: – An issue had been raised regarding Simon Hudson buying the drinks, Simon has been made aware. John agreed to get the drinks if Simon decided that he no longer wished to assist, Lisa also agreed to serve if required.

Plot inspection results: – Warning letter or Bill. After 2 separate inspections by two different people and the chairman the results were very similar. The results were divided into 4 groups depending on the state of the plot. It was decided the 2 worst groups would receive a warning letter along the lines of the draft letter suggested by the chairman. The number of plots failing were 23 and concerning 20 plot holders.  It was also noted that over the entire site many internal hedges and trees where getting out of hand and all gardeners should be aware of their responsibilities.

Rent bills: – It was agreed the Rent bills should be sent out to the remaining plot holders as usual.

A.G.M. March 2024: – It was proposed to enquire about using the Scout hut in case the weather is poor, JS will speak to Wendy Thomas, and to consideration should be given to moving the 2025 AGM to June.

Held over items,  Plot sizes,SY, tap,JS, shootng,JS, inventory,JB, web site,KB, composting toilet,JS, notice boards,JS.

A.O.B. Charles proposed a round of thanks to Winnie for her Sunday B.B.Q.

Confirm date of next meeting  1st  October 2023.          Close  12.00

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Barbecue & Show – Raffle Donations

Our annual ‘Barbecue & Show’ will be held on Saturday 9th Sept 2023 and we are currently collecting donations for the Raffle.

If you have anything you wish to donate, drinks, confectionary or anything else suitable, please hand it to any member of the Committee who will then store it in the Association Hut for safe keeping until the day.

Remember, everyone is welcome, bring along your family and friends.

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10.30 Chairman opens meeting, apologies
Minutes of meeting held 16th July
Matters arising
Chairman’s report inc. water
Treasurer’s report
Secretary’s report
Nottingham federation
Barbecue
Plot inspection results, warning letter or bill
Rent bills
Held over Plot sizes, tap, hazard substances, shooting, inventory,
notice boards
AOB
Confirm date of next meeting
Close

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Present: Steve Yorke, John Stooke, Winnie Beck, Jane Bowden, Carol Brier
Apologies: Mark Robinson, Charles Dewa, Wendy Thomas, Tom Hutchison
Observers: Gary Brier, Michael Graham, Simon Hudson, Paul Hibbs, Mrs Yorke

Meeting opened at 10.35 am and the minutes from the previous meeting held on 4th June 2023 were accepted without change (Proposed WB, seconded by JS).
The observers were welcomed.

Matters Arising.
• Security: As the old company that supplied the locks no longer deals with them, it’s hard to put a figure on the cost of replacing the locks and keys. However, it is likely to be between £2000 and £3000.
• Burning day: The fire brigade had been called to the last burning day, probably due to the amount of white smoke visible from Glaisdale Drive. SY will inform fire control of future burning days. Action:SY
• School visit: JS had emailed the school but there had been no response. WT had brought a Beavers group to site for a visit.
• AGM and Democracy: Barry Mitchell raised the question of getting pre Co-operative status rules, policies and procedures ratified at an AGM. JB and SY confirmed that this was not necessary as the change of status and the ‘Model Rules’ did not affect local rules. JB explained that legal advice from the NSALG confirmed that the ‘Model Rules’ document was, in effect, our new constitution as it sets out the way in which the Association should be run. Barry disagreed with this interpretation and was advised to contact the FCA if he remained unhappy and to report back.

Chair’s Report
• SY explained that in future he would be reporting comments and complaints from Association members without naming them as there was a concern that people might be bullied/abused.
Treasurer’s Report (paper presented by JS in MR’s absence)
• Financial Situation: £5617 in the bank with £1842 available after liabilities plus the value of the stock. There had been expenditure on 2 skips. The Committee recorded its thanks to Mark for his work, particularly in keeping on top of stock control.
Secretary’s Report
• Plots: Following complaints about Plot 2, the gardener had agreed to give it up on 27th July. It was proposed that the next working party on 6th August would strim the plot ready for reletting. Action: WT
• Use and Storage of hazardous substances: Given the absence of CD, it was agreed to defer this until he provides us with the information. Action: CD
• Emails from Barry Mitchell: JS confirmed that he was still happy to meet with Barry, along with SY,WT, to discuss his concerns. Action: JS
• Skips: JS to chase up company to remove skips. Action: JS
• Health and Safety: Neither JS nor Paul Hibbs had managed to find anything in the documentation about the use of firearms on allotment sites. Therefore, the key issue was the risk assessment in relation to potential harm to gardeners and the general public passing by. It is also important that the Association is protected from potential legal action. To achieve this, it was agreed to set up a group to develop a policy that can be taken to the AGM. This needs to include people using firearms checking that no-one else is around, having insurance (available via membership of BASC) and proving their competence. They need to aim down into the ground (therefore no birds may be shot). It was queried whether shooting is an effective way to control the rat population. Action JS
• BBQ and Show: 9th September. WB to do auction, Ronnie to do raffle tickets, WB to do food, JS to get BBQ stuff, JB to do peas, Mrs Yorke to get raffle prizes, Simon Hudson to do bar. SY has produced a new schedule for show entries. Budget: £120 (+15%) for drinks, £70 for raffle, £90-£100 for food.

Any other Business
• Water: The bill for last month was £552 and this month it will be in excess of £300 (to 23/7/23). JB suggested that these sums should be advertised to people so they are more aware of water costs. SY reported a number of instances of water wastage including someone watering a lawn, another using a spray nozzle, people watering produce that doesn’t need it and someone constantly filling a ‘pond’ without a liner. It was agreed that we need to educate plot holders more. JB to find and update the water advice document prepared a few years ago and to add a focus on harvesting rainwater. Action: JB It was agreed that SY should be permitted to enter a garden at any time to offer advice on water usage. SY reported that a tap had been left on. The culprit had apologised and was advised to remove his hose in future.
• Plot Inspections: Rent bills are due on 1st September. It was agreed to establish a team of volunteers, to be trained by SY, to undertake preliminary inspections to identify plots that were causing concern. Initially these would be advisory/informal but plot holders who will not be offered a rent bill will be informed. JB, WB and Paul Hibbs agreed to become part of the team.
• Plot sizes: SY reported that a number of plots have incorrect measurements which affects rent bills. All plots need remeasuring as part of the new agreement with the Council. SY will do the measuring using Googlemaps. JB also offered to do it. Action: JB and SY
• WB requested a new tap/stand pipe in the main lane. JS agreed to look at the feasibility of this and the cost. Action: JS
• Bricks: WB asked permission to move bricks found on her plot to the main car park. JS and SY will consider this and give her an answer.
• Inventory of Association Equipment: JB offered to do this. Action: JB
• Working Party: SY expressed the Committee’s thanks to JB, TH, Adam, Althera, Dave Kirkham and WB for their work at the last working party. Also to Dave Murfitt, Steve Williams and Michael for mowing and strimming common areas at other times. It is hoped that more people will join the Working Parties in future including the one on 6th August. Food will be available thanks to WB.
Rolled over items:

  • Noticeboards: JS is still working on the design of these.
  • It was agreed that we need to make an inventory of all equipment owned by the Association, including serial numbers and photos.
  • A loose-leaf Handbook was proposed to ensure all gardeners had up to date and easily accessible information about the Association and were aware of their rights and responsibilities.
  • Communication: New website is on hold as CB is too busy
  • Financial Plan: This had been started a few years ago and all agreed that it would be a good idea to resurrect it. MR to find the old plan and JS/SY to set up a meeting of a sub committee to draft a basic financial plan to include the replacement of 2 asbestos roofs, provision of a compost toilet and, more long term, the replacement of the Association hut.
  • Composting toilet: JS will continue to research these. There are local sites which we could visit to see them in operation.
  • AGM: A suggestion was made that having the AGM in the summer might increase attendance as more people are around and it’s more pleasant to sit outside in the warmth. This will require agreement to a change in the Registered Rules at a general meeting, possibly at the BBQ in September.


Meeting closed at 11.50pm.

    Date of next meeting: Sunday 20th August in the polytunnel, please send any agenda items to John

    Please note that, all members are more than welcome to attend Committee meetings and enter into debates (although they cannot vote). This will enable you to know what the Committee does and to contribute to the running of the Association.

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